freud-lacan: Re: Re'jouissances

["Hersh, Stephen" <SHERSH@APLNY.A-P-L.COM>]

Indeed.  One thinks of the idiomatic expression "marital rights" referring 
to lovemaking.

Back to the search for a translation for jouissance (pardon the vulgarity of 
the notion of "translation"), there is another idiom, "joy juice", which 
refers to the body fluids produced during sexual relations, as well as 
"spill a little joy juice" which means making love.  These are raw 
expressions, so again, please pardon the vulgarity.  Also, to be clear, 
these idioms are not widely known--they are a bit subculturish, like the 
expression "everything's copasedek" for "everything's OK".

If Freud could refer to thoughts and feelings and ideas as if they were 
physical quantities--with the term psychic energy--perhaps we can do 
something with "joy juice" for jouissance. (I'm joking, I think.  But to 
follow the joke through, "joy juice" suggests both enjoyment and sexuality, 
but without any of the legal overtones of rights and easements. )

Also, a further thought about using foreign words: If we use too many 
foreign words such as Das Es and Der Unbewusste (forgive the probable 
misspellings and grammatical errors), our prose becomes aufgehoben and 
(but?)  potentially emmerdé.

 -- Stephen Hersh
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From: freud-lacan
To: freud-lacan
Subject: Re: freud-lacan: Réjouissances
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 10:51AM



"Hersh, Stephen" wrote:

> The difficulty is that <jouissance> has a double meaning in French.  It
> denotes pleasure or enjoyment.  It also denotes sexual pleasure.  And it
> denotes orgasm.

Last but not least, dear Stephen, it also means... possession (!)  and also
tenure... One does not only enjoy the pleasures of life, but also, in 
english:
one enjoy certain rights = jouir de certains droits / and sometimes a right 
of
way = jouissance de passage!


> Using the French word is not a pleasing solution either.

Tout à fait de votre avis: moi aussi, tous ces mots étrangers m'agacent
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