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<DIV><FONT color=#000066 size=4>J'ai repris ce matin le séminaire XVI et
passerai ensuite au XVII. C'est de la haute volée -comme d'habitude. Merci, Guy,
de votre réponse détaillée; voici ce que j'aime aussi avec Lutecium: qu'on ne me
réponde pas: "Google est ton ami".</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Guy.De.Villers@uclouvain.be
href="mailto:Guy.De.Villers@uclouvain.be">Guy de Villers Grand-Champs</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 27, 2010 1:20 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=lutecium-group@lutecium.org
href="mailto:lutecium-group@lutecium.org">Groupe de travail pour la psychanalyse
lacanienne</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Lutecium-group] Le maître et son
discours</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>lutecium-group: Ceci est un document du Groupe de Travail
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<P></P>J'ai donné un titre plus explicite à l'objet de ma réponse à Loïc
Toubel.
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<DIV>Guy de Villers Grand-Champs</DIV>
<DIV>13, cours de Valduc</DIV>
<DIV>B-1348 LOUVAIN-LA-NEUVE</DIV>
<DIV>BELGIQUE</DIV>
<DIV>Tél.:+3210454789</DIV>
<DIV>Fax : +3210456974</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="mailto:guy.de.Villers@uclouvain.be">guy.de.Villers@uclouvain.be</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Début du message réexpédié :</DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>De : </B></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium">Guy de Villers
Grand-Champs <<A
href="mailto:Guy.De.Villers@uclouvain.be">Guy.De.Villers@uclouvain.be</A>><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>Date : </B></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium">27 septembre 2010 01:03:57
HAEC<BR></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>À : </B></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><A
href="mailto:lutecium-group@lutecium.org">lutecium-group@lutecium.org</A><BR></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>CCi : </B></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium">Guy de Villers
Grand-Champs <<A
href="mailto:Guy.De.Villers@uclouvain.be">Guy.De.Villers@uclouvain.be</A>><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>Objet :
</B></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>Rép :
Lutecium-group Digest, Vol 70, Issue 7</B><BR></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV>Bonsoir. <BR>Pour répondre à Loïc Toubel, je dirai l'intérêt que j'ai
trouvé à relire le Séminaire XVI, D'un Autre à l'autre. Lacan n’y parle que du
maître et de telle manière qu'au fil des séances on voit se profiler ce qui
deviendra le Signifiant maître dans son rapport à l'esclave et au savoir.
<BR>C'est absolument passionnant de saisir les linéaments de la construction
des quatre discours, présentés dans le Séminaire XVII, à partir de ce que
Lacan fait de la dialectique du maître et de l'esclave déployée par Hegel. La
séance du 29 juin 1969 est à cet égard très éclairante.<BR>Cela dit, il me
paraît vraiment utile, s'agissant du « discours du maître », de prendre à bras
le corps le Séminaire XVII où la thématique du discours du maître est
pleinement dépliée. <BR>Bon travail.<BR>Guy. <BR>Guy de Villers
Grand-Champs<BR>13, cours de Valduc<BR>B-1348
LOUVAIN-LA-NEUVE<BR>BELGIQUE<BR>Tél.:+3210454789<BR>Fax : +3210456974<BR><A
href="mailto:guy.de.Villers@uclouvain.be">guy.de.Villers@uclouvain.be</A><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Le
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Today's Topics:<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> 1. cherche occurrence: "discours du ma?tre"
(Lo?c Toubel)<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> 2. Re:
cherche_occurrence:_"discours_du_ma?tre" (Claire Gillie)<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> 3. Re: COMPLEMENT DE REPONSE<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite"> cherche_occurrence:_"discours_du_ma?tre"
(Claire Gillie)<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> 4. Re: COMPLEMENT DE REPONSE<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite"> cherche_occurrence:_"discours_du_ma?tre"
(Lo?c Toubel)<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> 5. Re: COMPLEMENT DE REPONSE
cherche_occurrence:_"<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> discours_du_ma?tre "
(Emmanuel Bing)<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Message: 1<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:05:38 +0200<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">From: Lo?c Toubel
<toubel.loic@neuf.fr><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Subject: [Lutecium-group] cherche occurrence:
"discours du ma?tre"<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">To:
<lutecium-group@lutecium.org><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Message-ID:
<43F90165D06047C59A301FE9F4E122C9@BureauVAIO><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Bonjour ? tous,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Quelqu'un parmi vous pourrait-il me dire ? quel
moment appara?t l'expression "discours du ma?tre" ? dans l'Envers? ou
avant?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">D'avance merci;<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">lt<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">From: harry haller <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:08
PM<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">To: lutecium-group@lutecium.org <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Subject: [Lutecium-group] Entretien audio: Jacques
le rider ? propos du Mo?se de Freud<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">lutecium-group: Ceci est un document du Groupe
de Travail Lutecium.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">D'oedipe ? Mo?se, Jacques Le Rider s'explique sur
cet int?r?t de Freud, quand Freud fait retour sur ses origines: le
retour de Freud par Freud, en quelque sorte. C'?tait en 2003.
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On peut entendre un entretien d'1h donn? ? France
Culture pour la sortie du livre: <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Freud, de l'Acropole au Sina?. Le retour ? l'Antique
des Modernes viennois (PUF, 2002).<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">L'?coute est sur ce lien: Les synoptiques
(http://dakone.unblog.fr/)<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:11:42 +0200<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">From: "Claire Gillie"
<claire.gillie@wanadoo.fr><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Subject: Re: [Lutecium-group]
cherche_occurrence:_"discours_du_ma?tre"<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">To: "Groupe de travail pour la psycha"
<lutecium-group@lutecium.org>,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>"lutecium-group@lutecium.org"
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">26/09/2010 17:10:36 <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">D?s le S?minaire 3, les
Psychoses<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Bien cordialement<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Claire Gillie<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">[Lutecium-group]
cherche_occurrence:_"discours_du_ma?tre"<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">lutecium-group: Ceci est un document du Groupe
de Travail Lutecium.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Bonjour ? tous,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Quelqu'un parmi vous pourrait-il me dire ? quel
moment appara?t l'expression "discours du ma?tre" ? dans l'Envers? ou
avant?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">D'avance merci;<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">lt<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">From: harry haller <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:08
PM<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">To: lutecium-group@lutecium.org <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Subject: [Lutecium-group] Entretien audio: Jacques
le rider ? propos du Mo?se de Freud<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">lutecium-group: Ceci est un document du Groupe
de Travail Lutecium.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">D'oedipe ? Mo?se, Jacques Le Rider s'explique sur
cet int?r?t de Freud, quand Freud fait retour sur ses origines: le
retour de Freud par Freud, en quelque sorte. C'?tait en 2003.
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On peut entendre un entretien d'1h donn? ? France
Culture pour la sortie du livre: <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Freud, de l'Acropole au Sina?. Le retour ? l'Antique
des Modernes viennois (PUF, 2002).<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">L'?coute est sur ce lien: Les synoptiques
(http://dakone.unblog.fr/)<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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type="cite">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">_______________________________________________<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ?t? contr?l?
par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu ? ce jour par nos services n'a ?t?
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Message: 3<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:16:15 +0200<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">From: "Claire Gillie"
<claire.gillie@wanadoo.fr><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Subject: Re: [Lutecium-group] COMPLEMENT DE
REPONSE<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>cherche_occurrence:_"discours_du_ma?tre"<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">To: "Groupe de travail pour la psycha"
<lutecium-group@lutecium.org>,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>"lutecium-group@lutecium.org"
<lutecium-group@lutecium.org><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Message-ID:
<20100926151652.6F89A80001EC@mwinf2e17.orange.fr><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Content-Type: text/plain;<SPAN
style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=Apple-tab-span>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">26/09/2010 17:13:59 <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Compl?ment de r?ponse : Dans le s?minaire III, Le?on
du 16 novembre 1955, en parlant de Cl?rambault : "La notion de l'automatisme
mental est apparemment polaris?e dans l'?uvre de Cl?rambault, dans son
enseignement, par le souci de d?montrer le caract?re fondamentalement
anid??que comme il s'exprimait, c'est-?-dire non conforme ? une suite
d'id?es - ?a n'a pas beaucoup plus de sens dans le discours de ce ma?tre -
de la suite des ph?nom?nes dans le d?veloppement ou l'?volution de la
psychose."<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Claire Gillie<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">[Lutecium-group]
cherche_occurrence:_"discours_du_ma?tre"<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">lutecium-group: Ceci est un document du Groupe
de Travail Lutecium.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">---<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Bonjour ? tous,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Quelqu'un parmi vous pourrait-il me dire ? quel
moment appara?t l'expression "discours du ma?tre" ? dans l'Envers? ou
avant?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">D'avance merci;<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">lt<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">From: harry haller <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:08
PM<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">To: lutecium-group@lutecium.org <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Subject: [Lutecium-group] Entretien audio: Jacques
le rider ? propos du Mo?se de Freud<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">lutecium-group: Ceci est un document du Groupe
de Travail Lutecium.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">--- <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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type="cite">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">D'oedipe ? Mo?se, Jacques Le Rider s'explique sur
cet int?r?t de Freud, quand Freud fait retour sur ses origines: le
retour de Freud par Freud, en quelque sorte. C'?tait en 2003.
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On peut entendre un entretien d'1h donn? ? France
Culture pour la sortie du livre: <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Freud, de l'Acropole au Sina?. Le retour ? l'Antique
des Modernes viennois (PUF, 2002).<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">L'?coute est sur ce lien: Les synoptiques
(http://dakone.unblog.fr/)<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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type="cite">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">_______________________________________________<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">A question? click
Help-Me@lutecium.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Lutecium-group mailing list<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Lutecium-group@lutecium.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">http://cerium.lutecium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lutecium-group<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">_______________________________________________<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">A question? click
Help-Me@lutecium.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Lutecium-group mailing list<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Lutecium-group@lutecium.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">http://cerium.lutecium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lutecium-group<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">-------------------------------------------------------<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ?t? contr?l?
par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu ? ce jour par nos services n'a ?t?
d?tect?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Message: 4<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:30:30 +0200<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">From: Lo?c Toubel
<toubel.loic@neuf.fr><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Subject: Re: [Lutecium-group] COMPLEMENT DE
REPONSE<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>cherche_occurrence:_"discours_du_ma?tre"<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">To: <claire.gillie@wanadoo.fr>,<SPAN
style="WHITE-SPACE: pre" class=Apple-tab-span>
</SPAN><lutecium-group@lutecium.org><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Message-ID:
<F617410C8DF54A938A06A84A55B26B3E@BureauVAIO><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
charset="iso-8859-1";<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>reply-type=original<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Merci beaucoup Claire Gillie, cependant je me
demande si cette occurrence <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">est bien dans la lign?e de ce qui deviendra l'un des
quatre discours; ici <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">"ma?tre" d?signe un individu bien pr?cis ("mon
seul ma?tre en psychiatrie") <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">et pas d'un discours. Enfin, je ne suis pas
s?r.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">en tout cas merci, je note cette
r?f?rence.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Lo?c.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">--------------------------------------------------<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">From: "Claire Gillie"
<claire.gillie@wanadoo.fr><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:16
PM<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">To: "Groupe de travail pour la psycha"
<lutecium-group@lutecium.org>; <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><lutecium-group@lutecium.org><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Subject: Re: [Lutecium-group]COMPLEMENT DE REPONSE
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">cherche_occurrence:_"discours_du_ma?tre"<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">lutecium-group: Ceci est un document du
Groupe de Travail Lutecium.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">---<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">26/09/2010 17:13:59<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Compl?ment de r?ponse : Dans le s?minaire III,
Le?on du 16 novembre 1955, <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">en parlant de Cl?rambault : "La notion de
l'automatisme mental est <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">apparemment polaris?e dans l'ouvre de Cl?rambault,
dans son enseignement, <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">par le souci de d?montrer le caract?re
fondamentalement anid??que comme il <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">s'exprimait, c'est-?-dire non conforme ? une suite
d'id?es - ?a n'a pas <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">beaucoup plus de sens dans le discours de ce
ma?tre - de la suite des <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">ph?nom?nes dans le d?veloppement ou l'?volution de
la psychose."<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Claire Gillie<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">[Lutecium-group]
cherche_occurrence:_"discours_du_ma?tre"<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">lutecium-group: Ceci est un document du
Groupe de Travail Lutecium.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">---<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Bonjour ? tous,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Quelqu'un parmi vous pourrait-il me dire ? quel
moment appara?t <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">l'expression "discours du ma?tre" ? dans l'Envers?
ou avant?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">D'avance merci;<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">lt<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">From: harry haller<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:08
PM<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">To:
lutecium-group@lutecium.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Subject: [Lutecium-group] Entretien audio: Jacques
le rider ? propos du <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Mo?se de Freud<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">lutecium-group: Ceci est un document du
Groupe de Travail Lutecium.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">--- <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">D'oedipe ? Mo?se, Jacques Le Rider s'explique sur
cet int?r?t de Freud, <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">quand Freud fait retour sur ses origines: le
retour de Freud par Freud, en <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">quelque sorte. C'?tait en
2003.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On peut entendre un entretien d'1h donn? ? France
Culture pour la sortie <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">du livre:<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Freud, de l'Acropole au Sina?. Le retour ?
l'Antique des Modernes viennois <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">(PUF, 2002).<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">L'?coute est sur ce lien: Les synoptiques
(http://dakone.unblog.fr/)<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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type="cite">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">_______________________________________________<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">A question? click
Help-Me@lutecium.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Lutecium-group mailing
list<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">Lutecium-group@lutecium.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">http://cerium.lutecium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lutecium-group<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">_______________________________________________<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">A question? click
Help-Me@lutecium.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Lutecium-group mailing
list<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">Lutecium-group@lutecium.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">http://cerium.lutecium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lutecium-group<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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type="cite">-------------------------------------------------------<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ?t? contr?l?
par l'anti-virus mail. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Aucun virus connu ? ce jour par nos services n'a
?t? d?tect?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">_______________________________________________<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">A question? click
Help-Me@lutecium.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Lutecium-group mailing
list<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">Lutecium-group@lutecium.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">http://cerium.lutecium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lutecium-group<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Message: 5<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 00:20:01 +0200<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">From: Emmanuel Bing
<bing@club-internet.fr><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Subject: Re: [Lutecium-group] COMPLEMENT DE
REPONSE<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN>cherche_occurrence:_" discours_du_ma?tre
"<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">To: Groupe de travail pour la psychanalyse
lacanienne<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN style="WHITE-SPACE: pre"
class=Apple-tab-span></SPAN><lutecium-group@lutecium.org><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Message-ID:
<C8C593B1.2FBF8%bing@club-internet.fr><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Oui, m?me r?flexion.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">EB<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">-- <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Emmanuel Bing ? ?crivain ? psychanalyste ? artiste
peintre ? atelier<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">d??criture<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">5 rue Tiphaine - 75015 Paris - 01 45 79 63
26<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">http://www.la-psychanalyse.fr -
http://www.atelier-bing.fr -<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">emmanuel.bing75015@orange.fr<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">De?: Lo?c Toubel
<toubel.loic@neuf.fr><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">R?pondre ??: Groupe de travail pour la psychanalyse
lacanienne<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><lutecium-group@lutecium.org><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Date?: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:30:30
+0200<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">??: <claire.gillie@wanadoo.fr>,
<lutecium-group@lutecium.org><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Objet?: Re: [Lutecium-group] COMPLEMENT DE
REPONSE<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">cherche_occurrence:_"discours_du_ma?tre"<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">lutecium-group: Ceci est un document du Groupe
de Travail Lutecium.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">---<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Merci beaucoup Claire Gillie, cependant je me
demande si cette occurrence<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">est bien dans la lign?e de ce qui deviendra l'un des
quatre discours; ici<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">"ma?tre" d?signe un individu bien pr?cis ("mon
seul ma?tre en psychiatrie")<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">et pas d'un discours. Enfin, je ne suis pas
s?r.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">en tout cas merci, je note cette
r?f?rence.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Lo?c.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">--------------------------------------------------<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">From: "Claire Gillie"
<claire.gillie@wanadoo.fr><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:16
PM<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">To: "Groupe de travail pour la psycha"
<lutecium-group@lutecium.org>;<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><lutecium-group@lutecium.org><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Subject: Re: [Lutecium-group]COMPLEMENT DE
REPONSE<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE
type="cite">cherche_occurrence:_"discours_du_ma?tre"<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">lutecium-group: Ceci est un document du
Groupe de Travail Lutecium.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">---<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">26/09/2010 17:13:59<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Compl?ment de r?ponse : Dans le s?minaire III,
Le?on du 16 novembre 1955,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">en parlant de Cl?rambault : "La notion de
l'automatisme mental est<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">apparemment polaris?e dans l'ouvre de Cl?rambault,
dans son enseignement,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">par le souci de d?montrer le caract?re
fondamentalement anid??que comme il<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">s'exprimait, c'est-?-dire non conforme ? une suite
d'id?es - ?a n'a pas<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">beaucoup plus de sens dans le discours de ce
ma?tre - de la suite des<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">ph?nom?nes dans le d?veloppement ou l'?volution de
la psychose."<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Claire Gillie<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">From: harry haller<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:08
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Subject: [Lutecium-group] Entretien audio: Jacques
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">D'oedipe ? Mo?se, Jacques Le Rider s'explique sur
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">quand Freud fait retour sur ses origines: le
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