[The-Lacanalyst] A theoretical an practical questioning

[Jacques B. Siboni]

Dear Scully Robert

I am not so sure I catch all of the implications of your answer. It 
leads to two
considerations

1-- There is absolutely now warranty in the practice of psychoanalysis; 
and the fact
the analyst has a MD, or PhD or no university diploma does not make a 
difference.
An analyst gets authorization only from himself (and a few others, 
namely his
analysands). When he receives authorization from university or Health 
Dept or
organization, and he believes he is acting by this means, he is a fraud.

2-- For more than 20 years I am amazed of the differences between the 
statute of
psychoanalysts in France and many other countries. These differences 
render logically
impossible the praxis of psychoanalysis in most countries. 
Psychoanalysts believe they
act as analysts although they are just representants  of the discourse 
of the master
and of the university. I am, by exchanging we all of you, experimenting 
the (vain?) possibility to port the discourse of the analyst in your 
country.

Of course in France there are some analysts belonging to a subsidiary of 
the IPA,
they use the same rules than in the US. Here we speak of the 
Freudo-Lacanian approach
  of psychoanalysis.

Very best

Jacques

On 11/25/25 3:47 PM, Jacques B. Siboni via The-lacanalyst wrote:
> Dear friends and colleagues
>
> I had a very interesting discussion with Aviva, which pinpointed
> the major differences between psychoanalysis in France and the USA.
>
> I wish to have you opinion on this.
> Let's put it this way, you are licensed by the state as psychiatrist,
> psychologist, social worker etc. You spend the evening with a very good
> friend of yours and he says he cannot carry on and he is going to kill
> himself. You do your best to help him change his mind and you go to
> sleep without telling anyone. The next
> morning you hear he is dead, unfortunately. My first question is
> can you be sued? due to the fact you, when you are in your office,
> try to cure people and have got a license to do so.
>
> I imagine (and hope) that you can argue that what happened that 
> evening was totally
> PRIVATE and was independent of your profession.
>
> In France situation of psychoanalysis is close to this one, it is a 
> PRIVATE
> relationship between two humans. I mean, not only in the evening but 
> in your
> office as well. No one has the right to intermix with it.
> There is an analyst and an analysand who agree to use a certain apparatus
> aimed to facilitate a work of speech (Freudian talking cure). The fact 
> that
> you might be a licensed psychologist
> or psychotherapist of psychiatrist does not make a difference as long as
> the process with your analysand is analytic and not therapeutic. We know
> some people did kill themselves when in analysis with Lacan or other
> analysts but of course they were not sued.
>
> When we talk about lacanalysis we mean this. Because Aviva says that 
> even in the
> case of a private practice with a patient she can be sued. Of course in
> the regard of psychoanalysis it is a nonsense.
>
> I'd love to have your vision of this scheme as it seems to be a thorn 
> in the
> side of psychoanalysis in your country.
>
> All the very best
>
> Jacques
>
> PS can you meet on Friday 5 at 1400 UTC?
>
>