14-04-1907 Freud to Jung

20 F

Vienna, 14. 4. 07.

Dear and honored colleague,

See, the world in general thinks the same as me in our relationship. The presentation of Amsterdam I was offered shortly before your arrival, and I hastily refused afraid to discuss with you and then leave me to accept you determine. Then the thing happened in the background in our conversations, compared to more important things. Now I am very pleased that you have chosen. My time, however it was not the second speaker Aschaffenburg, but there were two, namely Janet (1) an un indigène. It was obviously to a duel between Janet and me, but I hate gladiators before the noble populace, I can hardly bring myself to leave an indifferent crowd cast a vote on my experience (2); Above all I do for a few months to know anything about science, the instrument and provide badly mistreated by the rest all sorts of pleasures far away. It is now that you will support the skirmish with A[schaffenburg]. I plead for the lack of tact, rely on the hard skin of pachyderms opponents.

I still greet you as my successor on another occasion. I wanted to tell you lately been the case that I saw at Easter in Görlitz. I know that now he must get home to Burghölzli and you ask me information about it. I write, therefore I am the father directly in contact with you and I'm telling you what I saw. The boy will be very interesting, he probably little benefit we, but a lot of it we, and above this is the first object that we can both submit to the examination. I'm curious to see if you confirm what I claim, namely that it is not a dem. pr., but one case commencing and continuing obsession hysteria; I've seen several times earlier this evolution, in the other direction; I'm curious to see what your experiences Association say my diagnosis. This is a highly gifted individual, Oedipal kind, mother's love, hatred of the father (the ancient Oedipus is indeed itself a case of obsessional neurosis - question of the sphinx), sick from the eleventh year, the revelation of sexual acts; return to the infant grasped into clothing, rejection of sexual gigantic, can not not be seen, as a house *, Charcot used to say (3). This creates difficulties with him and prevented me from taking them to Vienna, is its access cries when he gets excited; cause it was nothing other than the means of childhood pressure to submit his mother to his will. Now access is as : He stands before a door, shouts, screams, rage and spit. If we contemplate the scene we see at first glance - But a real psychiatrist should not see what is not in Kraepelin (4) - Rub it with two fingers of the right hand path of a door panel, in an upward and downward movement (this is what I saw), that is to say it mimics coitus! When I presented it to him after access, il a non; and then : boys at school, them, mimed with the finger and (shots in the closed hand). In doing so it has : two, three, four, after relatively long pauses, what has meaning for coitus; and spitting it mimics obviously cumshot. He hears voices in doing so (also play a role during its intervals, which is of course problematic for diagnosis but not yet seem paranoid), mine is one of the most irritation and indignation, short it is a spectator coitus, against which he reacts with rage; and if you consider that he slept in the parents until its tenth year, you can guess what he watches couples there. It naturally plays two roles, the viewer that the disgust and the man who ejaculation. But the best is yet. Unfortunately, it is also organically child, in the formation of the genitals, that, as he tells himself with great coolness, have not developed since the eleventh year; he pushed off, by pride, despair about, all emotions attached to it, and it is these that make him now access. There should of course never that attaches importance to this disgusting Action (which by chance he is not able!)

I do not know if this is the only form of access, or if it has changed somewhat since this access we talked. If you see, treat only the, I would like to say, comme un collègue. It is terribly proud and vulnerable, in my estimation many times as smart as eg Aschaffenburg.

I have to assume at home a period of infantile sexual activity; nothing has been able to learn in the history of parents. But what parents can not blissfully not see ! Comme il a phimosis (a case for Adler 5 !), it is hardly possible that he escaped masturbatory inclinations in his youth.

What makes me the most pleasure, is that you do not rejetiez my comments on dementia. You know it's the same, even though I'm used to talk about paranoia, as it is to explain the paranoid part of dementia. I will use the next time freedom - today Sunday I am still too unable - to put in an understandable form my few thoughts. I do not untie me these ideas; if by chance I can do something, I will, but I am far from the material. I hope you get there earlier.

This is why I do not answer today either your questions about the dementia, I certainly do not know the answer in writing as far. I just feel that you lift properly as the most essential thing that these patients give us their complex without resistance and they are not available to transfer, that is to say, they show no effect of the latter. This is exactly what I would translate theory.

It would be quite possible for a real case of hysteria or obsessional neurosis turns after a time dementia, i.e. paranoia, without that we made a mistake in the diagnosis. This possibility is theoretically well demonstrable - something after all of this would be possible in the boy Görlitz.

My wife will not hurt at all, she thanks you for your sympathy and that of your wife. You will soon have news of me-tres.

With cordial greetings, your

Dr Freud.


1. Pierre Janet (1859-1947), professor of psychology at the College of France. He was one of the first to recognize the unconscious, but refused psychoanalysis. Jung followed in 1902-1903 his lectures at the Salpetriere Hospital in Paris.

2. Cf. Jones, II, p. 118, where the sentence is incorrectly cited.

3. Jean-Martin Charcot (1825-1893), French neurologist, doctor- Chief Salpetriere, known for his work on hysteria and hypnosis, which had a decisive influence on Freud. It studied with Charcot 1885-1886, translated courses in German {New Lectures on the diseases of the nervous system, particular hysteresis rie, Vienna 1886, translation Lessons from Tuesday at Salpêtrière, Paris, 1889-1892), and gave his eldest son's name.

4. Emil Kraepelin (1856-1926), Professor of Psychiatry in Munich 1903 at 1922. He advanced psychiatric systematic, , distinguishing particular dementia praecox (Schizophrenia) the manic-depressive. His main work, Psychiatry ; a textbook for students and physicians [Psychiatry; a manual for students and physicians], Leipzig, 1883, has long been an authority and has seen many editions. See also 14O J, n. 5.

5. Alfred Adler (1879-1937), from 1902 member of the Viennese group gathered around Freud, first president of the Vienna Psychoanalytic Association (1908), and the first major student of Freud to secede, in 1911, to start his own "individual psychology". He worked at 1926 mainly in America, and from 1935 finally. Il mourut à Aberdeen, Scotland, in 1937, during a lecture tour. In his monograph Psychic compensation the state of inferiority organs, Paris, Payot, 1936. Ed. orig. Study of Organ Inferiority, Berlin is a Vienne, 1907, he had fired a lecture given on 7 November 1906 before the Viennese circle of Wednes-day, Minutes, The, p. 36, he said that is often noted phimosis (narrowing the foreskin) in cases of enuresis.

* In French in the text. (N.d.T.)

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